Why no Android P beta for Galaxy S9 owners, Samsung?

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Let’s be honest: Samsung’s software update policy sucks, at least as far as its flagship phones are concerned. The Galaxy S8 and S8+ Oreo update took an awfully long time to reach every consumer, and the wait was even longer for Galaxy Note 8 owners, who paid considerably more than those who purchased the Galaxy S8. It’s generally agreed that Samsung’s software skin, called Samsung Experience these days, is what adds the extra development time for a major new Android upgrade, and the company also has to make sure the millions of consumers who buy its flagships don’t run into problems after installing such an update, which is why it takes its time to polish things up.

But one can also argue those reasons don’t hold up to scrutiny, as these updates still manage to have issues despite all the time in the oven and after Samsung running a beta test program for end users. And hey, I don’t actually mind the delay in official updates as much as I mind the fact that Android P, the next version of the OS, will be made available as a beta for some non-Google phones while us Samsung users — Galaxy S9 and S9+ owners in particular — will most likely have to wait till the end of this year for getting the chance to test Android P.

Android P beta will come to more than just Google smartphones

And it’s not like the phones on the Android P beta list are all running stock Android; there are even Xiaomi, Vivo, and Oppo devices on the list. It’s possible the Android P beta will initially be vanilla Android just to give users a taste of what it has to offer, something Samsung cannot partake in as there’s no way it will let people try out stock Android on its devices. The company will also need time to implement its custom skin and features, but at this point in time, it’s hard for me to care about the reasons why such an early trial run of the next version of Android would be impossible for a Samsung device.

Frankly, Samsung needs to do better. Android helped Samsung reach where it is today in the smartphone industry, and Samsung lend an even bigger hand to the OS to help it become the world’s most widely used mobile operating system. It should ideally be working alongside Google to make sure updates come out faster, or at the very least start dedicating some resources to bringing beta versions of the next major Android release much ahead of what the case is right now. I know many new features are often available on Samsung devices before Google thinks of implementing them on vanilla Android.

In fact, Google says it’s Project Treble that’s making it possible for these OEMs to release the Android P beta so quickly, and it would be a very nice gesture if Samsung can also get down to business and pick up its pace. Maybe the official Android P update for the Galaxy S9 will make its way to users soon after Google releases the final version for its own devices, but unless we see concrete evidence about Samsung putting Project Treble to good use, it’s hard for me to believe things will be much different for the Galaxy S9 and Galaxy S9+.

What do you think? Should Samsung finally be pulling its act together now that other OEMs have gone as far as saying they will be letting their customers test the next version of Google’s mobile OS, or are you okay with the state of affairs as long as Project Treble ensures the Galaxy S9’s first major update doesn’t take very long to arrive? Sound off in the comments!

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22 hours 10 minutes ago
Kim Bennett
I was a Galaxy beta tester for both nougat and oreo and it was a great experience. Sure there were some bugs as should be expected with any beta software but never so many as to make it non usable. The beta community was responsive and very helpful, many of the groups suggestions ended up making it into the final releases so I truly believe we made a difference in the evolution of the OS from Beta 1 to final release. Too bad there weren’t really any groundbreaking features in the upgrade from nougat to oreo. I’d been waiting to… Read more »
11 days 1 hour ago
Matt Thompson
Samsung’s security updates are horrendous and there’s no reason for that. As far as Android development goes, Samsung has their own thing going on and they’re sitting on some of the design patents. I’m guessing that Google got a better deal licensing some UI designs from Apple than from Samsung so they’re going that route instead. Android P doesn’t offer much innovation from what I’ve been playing with on my Pixel. That being said, a Galaxy S without the Samsung Experience, and a more logically placed fingerprint sensor, and edges that you could actually hang on to, would be great.… Read more »
Haohan Wendy
11 days 4 hours ago
Haohan Wendy

you want android P in samsung ? pls wait till september 2019 or december 2019 😀

DeviceManager
11 days 4 hours ago
DeviceManager

Hell Ya!

erizzle22
14 days 4 hours ago
erizzle22

my s9+ still hasn’t been updated past the February security update

14 days 7 hours ago
aroutis

You are answering your own comment. What is the point of this ?
There is absolutely no sense of a vanilla android for a SAMSUNG S or Note device for that matter; this is why there is an android P so early and there will never be.

pmenzies
14 days 12 hours ago
pmenzies

I am still convinced the reason for Samsung’s update policy is, apart from making sure updates work, their dominant position in the Android environment. They can do what they want and still maintain a masive market share

VIRGIN KLM
14 days 14 hours ago
VIRGIN KLM

I mean Samsung can’t even handle their sh*t and pull themselves together with normal incremental updates with constant delays and you expect pre-release software on them? I bet that even after the official release of Android P current flagships won’t get it atleast before a full 8 months after, if not when the developer preview of Android Q is out. Samsung is synonymous to extremely bad timing with updates and even after Treble I don’t see things get any better.

UGRA LTE
14 days 17 hours ago
UGRA LTE
I think that the Galaxy X is flexible or Note X, will be my last device from Samsung. Due to the huge availability of devices, most of it will never be updated at all. Take for example Galaxy Round these devices, so normally not what they did not receive. They were abandoned to the whale with only 2 updates. It turns out that the applications went ahead and the operating part remained. Samsung time to make a single device for the entire market without separating them into different markets. That’s only in that case and then you look at the… Read more »
14 days 21 hours ago
amoctarm

In one word Samsung SUCKS. Why having multiple software for just one phone (USA, EU, Asia and other part of the world) The other BRANDS like Apple don’t do that. And their UPDATES are made on time for everybody.

14 days 7 hours ago
aroutis

Comparing apples with oranges. Apple is using their own system ; SAMSUNG is using Google android and an interface atop of that. Whatever SAMSUNG does, they do have to adjust their interface to whatever changes happen to android when that goes from version to version. And since there is no way you see a vanilla android on a top tier galaxy device, there is no meaning in making this comparison.

sgs2aus
14 days 21 hours ago
sgs2aus

You just know it won’t have the full release of Android P till March-April next year, at which point it probably won’t even be the latest release of P, just like they did with Oreo on the S8 & N8.

14 days 7 hours ago
aroutis

And noone cared 🙂

nathan807
15 days 4 hours ago
nathan807

Till August No Android P update for Samsung S9 and S9+. I am sure. It is a open challenge and I bet for it… Do not try cheat us Samsung… You bloody middle finger…

alastairgreen_Nexus
15 days 7 hours ago
alastairgreen_Nexus

Indeed, they must join the beta programme so that the developer community and power Users can share opinions on how to improve Android P for S9 and S9+ and possibly Note 9 as well

preime101
15 days 11 hours ago
preime101

seeing as P’s features by and large already exist on Samsung’s latest phones there isn’t anything we are missing anyway.

kwaasung
15 days 15 hours ago
kwaasung

Why don’t they update android core version with previous version of samsung experience? and update it while they have nothing to do.
just a thought though i don’t know about it ..

shadow354527
15 days 19 hours ago
shadow354527
Well the development of the rom will take time whether we are complaining or not, like seriously Samsung adding too much features and shortcuts in Rom so it take this much time to make sure everything is stable and work as it should, i don’t personally enjoy using a beta version of Android i can easily wait as i was doing since i used my first Samsung phone that doesn’t bother me however the update is not taking a year ! or something to arrive then you can enjoy a full featured version of Android with a little touch of… Read more »
16 days 1 hour ago
Gianfranco090494

Well, as said in the article, Samsung has it’s own skin of android, so it has to implement that in order to let people use the P beta. Other than that, Samsung would never do that, because it has it’s own beta program. The only thing I hope for P is that since the beta has been released to more OEMs, Samsung will hopefully start it’s own beta program shortly after the official release of P, and making it able to reach al the consumers, before the end of this year.

keithsanantonio
16 days 3 hours ago
keithsanantonio

Dont like stock Android that is why im with samsung. For me stock android is boring.

Biransahin
16 days 9 hours ago
Biransahin
As Samsung has more capabilities than boring stock Android it would be stupid to go backwards to Android P right now. Stock wouldn’t have most of its useful features if it weren’t for Samsung and LG, including and not confined to multi windows, multi tasking, vr support, vulcan game support and a ton of other stuff. Google just waits for OEM innovation and puts it on the next Android OS version. Just check the video of everything on Android P that’s been on Samsung phones since Marshmallow. Android P is missing features that are on Samsung Oreo, they’ll probably not… Read more »
CsabaZz
16 days 9 hours ago
CsabaZz

I’d been so surprised if they released the beta Android P. Samsung doesn’t care with the customers, that’s what I learnt since 2012.

RoadRunner99
16 days 10 hours ago
RoadRunner99

I want updates and long-term support. Not being able to test betas, however, it’s something that doesn’t bother me.

digvijayshinde
16 days 11 hours ago
digvijayshinde

Google is able to provide Android P to these devices because of collaboration with Qualcomm. And as you know Samsung has Exynos as well and they don’t want to be seen biased towards Snapdragon version.

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