Samsung lost case against Apple

Today Samsung lost a case against Apple. Samsung lost the patent battle about Apples patent of scrolling in the gallery (EP 2.059.868).
Samsung need to give all Android devices with Android 2.1, 2.2, 2.3 a update for the blue bounce effect in the gallery.
The court in the Netherlands decided this. Samsung started earlier with those updates, sadly not all devices are using this bounce effect yet.

Samsung need to make sure the update is done in 8 weeks if not Samsung could have to pay 100.000 euro a day!

Samsung Benelux, said in a statement to be “disappointed”: “Apple wants to restrict consumer choice and innovation discourage their excessive and incorrect legal claims… We take all possible measures to protect consumer choice in the Netherlands.”

The patent wars between Apple and Samsung are quite big in 2012, the biggest decision will come in December. Samsung lost a case in Apples home country, Samsung could pay Apple up to 1 billion dollar.


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4 years 4 months ago

thanks for replying pizzaman.

4 years 4 months ago

I saw an iphone 5 in one of our guest’s hand.
It looked like an idiotly messed up TV remote controller.
It’s length makes it look like a remote control.
Hate apple.

4 years 4 months ago

Apple had damage….damn those at rotten apple are soo stupid….i want to see guy who said “omg this android phone has same bounce effect as iphone, ill deffinatly buy it instead of iphone”

4 years 4 months ago

Yeah right, burnout, in eight weeks. Piece of cake :-p

They’re just gonna change the bounce effect to a blue flash.

4 years 4 months ago

and galaxy y, it will be updated?, and he will get android 4.0 or 4.1 or not?

4 years 4 months ago

Apple was fail with iPhone 5 and didn’t sold the number of pieces that they wanted and then they fight samsung overtime to take money from there.They are all fail.iFail.We have much more features than iOS.Gallery is not means the end

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4 years 4 months ago

apple is american. ofcourse they win in court. usa thinks they owns the world. if for example apple had lost in court in some other country for example UK and APPLE had to pay samsung 1 billion. then usa would start to threat UK with bomb attacks.

4 years 4 months ago

Sorry for the spam lol. Im reading the verdict itself now. Some more interesting facts:

- Apple lost the same patent case on this patent against HTC in the UK, however HTC’s galleries were deemed different than Samsung’s, so this verdict is not relevant.

- The judge in germany suspended the trial, because it is expected the patent is going to be declared invalid

- In products with Android 3.0, in a zoomed photo, you get a bounc back if you swipe a little. But if you make a bigger gesture, you scroll to the next picture in the gallery. This is found not to infringe on Apple’s patent (contrary to what the article said?)

- There was some discussion on second swipes, where the first swipe gives a bounce and the second swipe makes you move on to the next pic. Apple tried to convince the judge that any swipe could be seen as the second move following any random move. Yeah right. Mind control failed. Go try that stuff on American jury’s, not on our judges. It seems though, that their mind control trick did work in Germany, but that’s going to be irrelevant if the whole patent is going to be made invalid.

- Samsung was not forced to recall any phone

- Even though it won’t be much, there is going to be a seperate trial to decide how much Samsung has to pay, as Apple has “possibly suffered some financial damage”

- Apple does get to see some of Samsung’s financial numbers, but only net profit on infinging devices, as these are necessary to decide how much Samsung has to pay

- It will yet be decided if Samsung has to pay all the legal fees

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5. said overpaid lawyers are, of course, gonna secure their jobs a little longer by appealing, so Apple might lose after all

4 years 4 months ago

1. also it’s not all phones with Android 2.2.1 to 3.0, only those from july 2011

4 years 4 months ago

Calm down, the title to this post is misleading. I’m Dutch, so i read the original article. Indeed, Samsung was found guilty of infringing on some scroll patents for bouncing back in the photo gallery. BUT…

1. Only phones with Android 2.2.1 to 3.0 are infringing and have to be updated

2. Samsung has already updated most phones. They have to finish the updating within 8 weeks. That’ll teach them to be slow on updates lol. If they fail on this, they will have to pay 100.000 euro per day.

3. Our justice system isn’t as ridiculous as in the us with it’s billion dollar verdict. Apple isn’t entitled to all the profit made on these devices. Just the profit Samsung made on these devices, because of this specific feature. That will probably not be less than the legal costs.

Is that a win for Apple or just for all the overpaid lawyers?

4. Apple lost several other cases in the netherlands

4 years 4 months ago

There is always another way to do these kind of things, sammy and google just need to move further away from IOS quicker and in a more obvious way. Happily google and sammy are still inovating while apple have levelled off now due to JObs’s passing.

4 years 4 months ago

Maybe not….

Since it’s only 2.1, 2.2, 2.3, how about updating all phones to ICS?
:D :D

4 years 4 months ago

Immagine Apple winning most law suits, wouldn’t we have to revamp the whole Android Jelly Bean design? The only way to beat Apple is at their own game and on their turf.

4 years 4 months ago