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Samsung’s Exynos processors may never be the same again

Samsung has used its own Exynos processors for flagship smartphones in addition to Qualcomm chips since as far as you may remember. Qualcomm-based variants are sold in limited markets like the United States and China whereas the Exynos variants are distributed across the globe.

The Exynos chips have featured Samsung’s custom Mongoose cores for a few years now and while the gap has been narrowed in subsequent generations, the Snapdragon counterpart is generally better at thermal management and battery efficiency. Samsung has reportedly made a major decision that would fundamentally change Exynos processors from here on out.

Future Exynos processors may not have Samsung’s custom cores

Multiple reports suggest that Samsung has laid off the entire CPU dev team at its R&D Center in Austin. Founded in 2010, the R&D Center in Texas develops CPUs and system IP. Development for its custom CPU core is believed to have been done there as well.

Samsung has been building its own custom CPU cores based on its version of the ARMv8 architecture. It went this way instead of simply licensing cores from ARM. The Galaxy Note 10’s Exynos 9825 features the fourth-generation Mongoose M4 core, which is on the same 7nm node as the Snapdragon’s Kryo 485 semi-custom core. The latter outperforms Samsung’s solution in multi-core usage scenarios.

Even after four generations, the Mongoose cores haven’t been able to match and let alone exceed what Qualcomm was able to achieve with its semi-custom design. So the decision may finally have been made to let this go and focus the efforts and resources elsewhere.

This obviously doesn’t mean that Samsung will stop making Exynos processors. The reports mention that Samsung has not laid off the GPU and SoC development teams. It will go the Qualcomm route and simply license standard cores from ARM. Future Exynos SoCs may thus feature off-the-shelf ARM cores with Samsung’s custom modem and AI solutions.

Samsung is yet to comment on these reports. We’ll update you as and when new information comes in.

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xarddd
xarddd

Well i was never fan of this 2 kind of cpu one for US and for the second class people Exynos while the second CPU never have been in the same performance , the global version always came with the same price , i hope they cut as whole and they keep the qualcom CPU for the global variants of their flagship products.

siaho
siaho

It’s not the same price, it’s more expensive vs in USA. For example in Europe the exynos note 10 plus costs around 1150 euro vs 1100$ for the snapdragon in USA.

1 euro =/= 1 us dollar, you can check the current exchange rate.

strazzi
strazzi

1EUR = 1.1 USD

madpaulo
madpaulo

Hoping that mali gpu remove. Mali gpu is sucks.

ashwinrajsr
ashwinrajsr

Samsung have tied up with AMD for graphics now. Hopefully the S11 will feature the product of this partnership.

FARSTRIDER
FARSTRIDER

After the surface event not sure if book s is worth it. Seeing as MS exclusive arm cpu is better but after feeling the lumia sting who knows

Achour007
Achour007

It’s a good and bad new at the same time.
On the exynos 8890 and 8995, Mangoose M1 and M2 were more powerfull and efficient tant qualcomm’s kryo and Arm A7x.

The good news, is that exynos socs will become more efficients, the bad is Mangoose core are Much better in single cores opérations.
I hope Samsung will release un new custom architecture and not only use A77

Abhijeet M.
Abhijeet M.

But that single core performance makes no difference in day to day use, while battery efficiency does get affected enough to give the Snapdragon chips an advantage. As we are realizing after some of the team getting the Fold, the Snapdragon 855 makes battery life noticeably better.

siaho
siaho

Only geekbench 4 gave a lead to the mangoose… all the other benchmarks even for single core was for the snapdragon. Also as you said and you are 100% correct – single core performance doesn’t matter when in real world usage in every single scenario the snapdragon comes on top + variants with it are smoother, faster, better battery life, better modem, better DAC (rip 3.5mm jack), a lot faster GPU peformance = great gaming vs mediocre one, better thermals too + strange hiccups and frame drops on the exynos 9810/20/25. Samsung gave that team quite a few years to… Read more »