Samsung’s “next smartphones” to have 64-bit processors, because Apple has one in the new iPhone

No one could ever have expected this, but it looks like the next technological race in smartphones is going to revolve around creating smartphone processors that are capable of 64-bit processing, as Apple unveiled its new iPhone 5s and touted it as the world’s first smartphone to include a 64-bit processor. Samsung’s mobile business chief Shin Jong-kyun told The Korea Times: “Not in the shortest time. But yes, our next smartphones will have 64-bit processing functionality.”

It’s still up in the air whether 64-bit processing is really needed in smartphones, as one of its biggest advantages – ability to have more than 4GB of RAM – is totally moot in current smartphones, with only the Galaxy Note 3 coming close with its 3 gigs of RAM (though a not-so-great benefit of faster code processing will still be useful, but even that can come at the expense of high RAM usage, something Android is already guilty of). But since Apple has it in their new iPhone, it’s completely unsurprising that Samsung is going to be following suit, so it’s possible we’ll see the Galaxy S5 sporting a 64-bit processor, and maybe even 4GB of RAM.

Shin also mentioned that Samsung is looking to step up its efforts in China and Japan, again, as a result of Apple recently ramping up efforts in the two markets, announcing a deal with Japan’s largest carrier NTT DoCoMo, and a launch of the new iPhone in China on day one. “Samsung understands that Apple intends to boost its mobile business in China, as well as in Japan, meaning that we should try harder in these countries.”

So, true octa-core processors, followed by 64-bit ones. Looks like things are about to get crazy in the mobile silicon universe, and we can all thank Apple for at least some part of it.

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sguyx
1 year 6 months ago

And then it takes years to get apps more optimized for 64bit. Platform needs lot of work to be any better than it is nowadays. Would you really expect to see a better performance with the first 64bit android device? Don’t be disappointed then!

Suo.Eno
1 year 11 months ago

“Samsung’s “next smartphones” to have 64-bit processors, because Apple has one in the new iPhone”

Really? Look I piss on Samsung’s misgivings every half chance I get here but this time I think the headline are a bit below the belt somewhat.

64 bit are only a natural computing tech progression and it was ARM that had put out their plans publicly earlier. Only thing that Apple does diff is that yes they got it on device on time complete w/ their “how to pull 64 bit off properly” strategy in place. When you really think about it, Apple has far more graver implications than ARM themselves at putting out a 64 bit SoC, because everyone knows that their “A” SoCs are limited to say 3 distinct iDevices therefore the more pressure on them instead of ARM’s approach of getting out a base reference to cover a whole lot more ground for non-Apple/iOS devices.

Being 1st out of the gate doesn’t automatically mean that they thought about the idea in the 1st place. Thus this is a little unfair painting a picture to make Samsung justified it’s response just because Apple did it 1st.

Whether we really need x64 (or maybe specifically x86-64) on the go are redundant. Going by that line of thinking we might as well tell Intel to stop everything they’re doing right now no? The curve moves, software and apps a bit behind which is normal same thing w/ PCs anyways and time is money.

Suo.Eno
1 year 11 months ago

“Samsung’s “next smartphones” to have 64-bit processors, because Apple has one in the new iPhone”

Really? Look I piss on Samsung’s misgivings every half chance I get here but this time I think the headline are a bit below the belt somewhat.

64 bit are only a natural computing tech progression and it was ARM that had put out their plans publicly earlier. Only thing that Apple does diff is that yes they got it on device on time complete w/ their “how to pull 64 bit off properly” strategy in place. When you really think about it, Apple has far more graver implications than ARM themselves at putting out a 64 bit SoC, because everyone knows that their “A” SoCs are limited to say 3 distinct iDevices therefore the more pressure on them instead of ARM’s approach of getting out a base reference to cover a whole lot more ground for non-Apple/iOS devices.

Being 1st out of the gate doesn’t automatically mean that they thought about the idea in the 1st place. Thus this is a little unfair painting a picture to make Samsung justified it’s response just because Apple did it 1st.

Whether we really need x64 (or maybe specifically x86-64) on the go are redundant. Going by that line of thinking we might as well tell Intel to stop everything they’re doing right now no? The curve moves, software and apps a bit behind which is normal same thing w/ PCs anyways and time is money.

iampiti
1 year 11 months ago

This article is pure speculation.. I mean, sure, Samsung will get 64 bit processors on their mobile product..but, because of Apple? I’d bet an arm and leg that it was already in the planning.

caesantos
1 year 11 months ago

Maybe Tizen OS will run on 64 bits processors…

s2insider
1 year 11 months ago

If Apple gonna make their next Iphone with that kind of RAM, They have to reconsider about the battery because even Dual-Core on I5 won’t last 6 hour. Beside more battery means bigger device and do you think most of people that obsessed with Apple gonna like that? I don’t think so. Because most of them already said to Samsung and other: Oohh It’s big blah blah blah no one like a big phone.

vslsnks
1 year 11 months ago

I don’t really see the point of upgrading the specs of a phone so much. 4GB+ of RAM in a phone? What for? I believe the Note 3 is the epitome of all smartphone technology.
P.S. I can already hear the voices of apple fans claiming that we are copy cats.

darooz
1 year 11 months ago

much ram IS needed. cpu and gpu is needed if you want a sony PSP alternative.
if u are a fan of mobile games..
buying a mugen battery is mandatory.

well if you are like me.. like to play games with full brightness doesnt want to have your phone explode in your hands while playing with the charger connected

AquilaSol
1 year 11 months ago

Oh that’ll be fun.

Have you ever noticed how many windows programs put themselves in the 86 bit program files folder because they’re not meant for 64 bit?

Add to that the sheer lazyness of the average android developer (just how many apps are true 1080+ HD? My point exactly.) and we’ll be left with a 64bit CPU running 99.9% 86bit apps that will never utilize the speed because the developers can’t be arsed to rewrite the app.

biniou
1 year 11 months ago

you mean 32bits apps, not 86 bits app, you’re talking about the Intel x86 architecture, which is 32 bits

ivkos
1 year 11 months ago

Can Android actually run on ARMv8?

konsulas
1 year 11 months ago

New Samsung flagship should look like this:

20nm 64bit ARMv8 3ghz Snapdragon/Exynos
4 GB RAM
16 mpx camera with optical stabilization
stereo speakers

gtone339
1 year 11 months ago

Plus a larger-sized battery!

Maybe the first smartphone to have 4k display?

Galaxy SFIVE

pitufillo
1 year 11 months ago

You can have more than 4GB of RAM on 32bit processors, although it’s not commonly used.

There are other advantages to 64bit processing, like increase of bus bandwidth (faster transfers of data overall will increase performance) or being able to compute more complex operations per processor cycle.

There also disadvantages like increased binary code size and higher power consumption.

atifsh
1 year 11 months ago

you need to re-educate your knowledge about this. :P
32bit cant use more than 3.25 gb of ram to be exact.
put 16 gb on board but it will use 3.25GB :)

biniou
1 year 11 months ago

re-educate yourself
PAE, etc…
furthermore, your 3.25 Gb is bullshit
it comes from 32 bits XP memory management
32 bits can only address 4 Gb of RAM, including all peripherals, and particularly video memory
using a 512 Mb graphic card reduces the amount of memory the system can use to 3.5 Gb. Add a few other controlers (SATA, USB, and so on) and you can come to this 3.25, but it will be different from one system to another

PAE is a way to make 32 bits use more than 4 Gb or RAM, but each running process won’t be able to use more than 4 Gb. Those limits are gone with a 64 bits (there are limits though, but far from being reached)

netherless, 64 bits smartphone is nothing but marketing need, nothing else, at least for a few years

ivkos
1 year 11 months ago

You’re wrong. Look up the 3 GB barrier on Wikipedia.

xhustler
1 year 11 months ago

Having a 64-bit processor in a phone is like owning a ferrari in Africa. Our roads are crap and u will never realize the true power of the ferrari even if you can afford one.

True, the Linux kernel can ‘morph’ between 32-bit and 64-bit instructions but as long as the rest of the software does not take advantage of the 64-bit instruction set, then the 64-bit processor becomes redundant.

I gotta admit, Touch ID is pretty cool.

 
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