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schrodie
10-05-2014, 10:37
Further to my previous thread I just thought I'd let 'greenman' know that I downloaded the 4.4.2 version for the N8000 installed it over the Omni rom I had on my tablet and I now have all previous functions working i.e. SPen and Multiscreen plus the enhancements that comes with 4.4.2. :D

One interesting point to note was that I had to use an old version of Odin v 1.87 I think to get Odin to recognise the files! Using the updated version of Odin didn't work as that version wouldn't "see" the files...very odd!! :)

greenman
10-05-2014, 10:48
Thank you for letting us know. :)

Unlike usual convention, using the most recent Odin does not always work.
I try 1.85 as a good alternative.

schrodie
11-05-2014, 11:47
Can I just ask is there a way to disable the 'Cell Standby' function as that appears to be the most significant drain on the battery at the moment? It's a function that I really won't use as the tablet doesn't have the ability to make calls.

Thanks

greenman
11-05-2014, 12:00
The way it used to be done was to install Airplane Mode Modifier app:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.wparam.airsettings&referrer=utm_source%3Dgoogle%26utm_medium%3Dorgani c%26utm_term%3Dairplane+mode+modifier

This allowed you to select Airplane mode - disabling all data access - but then the app let you override airplane mode and select WiFi.

Samsung, again, interfered and blocked this feature.
See the app details for alternative.

schrodie
11-05-2014, 12:05
Thanks again. I'm not too sure if your last 2 sentences are saying that the the AMM app doesn't work now?

greenman
11-05-2014, 12:06
Thanks again. I'm not too sure if your last 2 sentences are saying that the the AMM app doesn't work now?
I'm afraid that is exactly what I am saying - thanks to Samsung changes in firmware after 4.2.

schrodie
11-05-2014, 12:14
I have found details on the net that says Cell Standby can be turned off if Airplane Mode is turned on (on the Tablet). Is there any validity to this advice?

Thanks

greenman
11-05-2014, 12:36
I have found details on the net that says Cell Standby can be turned off if Airplane Mode is turned on (on the Tablet). Is there any validity to this advice?

Thanks

That is valid, and is what I mentioned below.
The problem is the airplane mode also turns off wifi. This is what the app used to work round by modifying the airplane mode.

schrodie
11-05-2014, 13:03
I've turned Airplane Mode on (and presume it's on because there's a small plane icon at the top right hand side where the battery level is.) and WiFi is still on as I can access the Internet.

greenman
11-05-2014, 13:23
I've turned Airplane Mode on (and presume it's on because there's a small plane icon at the top right hand side where the battery level is.) and WiFi is still on as I can access the Internet.
OK. Not as I expected but welcome for you. :)

greenman
11-05-2014, 13:29
OK. Not as I expected but welcome for you. :)

Just tried it on my S4.
Flight Mode turns off mobile data, wifi etc.
However, selecting wifi /bluetooth and they return. Just mobile data remains off.
Thanks for pointing this change out. :)

schrodie
11-05-2014, 13:32
Thanks, but why if turning on Airplane Mode AP Mode cuts off Cell Standby does Cell Standby still take the majority of the battery usage? Surely it should take very little or none at all!

greenman
11-05-2014, 13:38
Thanks, but why if turning on Airplane Mode AP Mode cuts off Cell Standby does Cell Standby still take the majority of the battery usage? Surely it should take very little or none at all!
Is that what is happening?
Have you had the phone in Flight Mode before?
From your post I thought you had just started using Flight Mode.

schrodie
11-05-2014, 13:50
It was at the top of the battery usage list of apps using the battery at 88%. See screenshot.

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schrodie
11-05-2014, 13:53
Is that what is happening?
Have you had the phone in Flight Mode before?
From your post I thought you had just started using Flight Mode.

I haven't used Flight Mode on this Tablet before because this is the first time I've encountered this issue. In a previous life my Tablet was running on JB and was an N8010 now it's an N8000 since installing the N8000 firmware on it.

greenman
11-05-2014, 14:00
I haven't used Flight Mode on this Tablet before because this is the first time I've encountered this issue. In a previous life my Tablet was running on JB and was an N8010 now it's an N8000 since installing the N8000 firmware on it.

Installing the n8000 firmware was not the best move - as you know.
Your firmware is using an unusually large amount of energy searching for the nearest mobile mast. It cannot connect to the network (as you have no modem), but the software is programmed to make and maintain a connection. Flight Mode should resolve that.

schrodie
11-05-2014, 14:23
Given that Samsung has decided not to roll out KK to the S3 and after talking to a Samsung salesperson in a Samsung store the other week about the roll out of KK to the N8010 2012 version she left me with no doubt that as the S3 the chance of the Note 10.1 2012 version getting KK was very remote! Hence my deciding to turn my N8010 into a schizophrenic Tablet!! After installing the current firmware (as compared to the previous one) I haven't lost any of the functions that were on the "old" N8010 I suppose the only differences no I'll have to keep an eye on the battery levels but that's no big deal as I generally plug everything in to their respective chargers at the end of the day.

However if Samsung do release KK for the Note 10.1 2012 I presume all I have to do is overwrite the N8000 firmware that's currently on this Tablet with the KK N8010 firmware?

Here's a question, if I didn't install the modem files when I installed the N8000 files why is this Tablet looking for a network? I only installed the BL, AP and CSC files

greenman
11-05-2014, 14:29
However if Samsung do release KK for the Note 10.1 2012 I presume all I have to do is overwrite the N8000 firmware that's currently on this Tablet with the KK N8010 firmware?
We have had this converation before, and the answer is yes.


Here's a question, if I didn't install the modem files when I installed the N8000 files why is this Tablet looking for a network? I only installed the BL, AP and CSC files
The modem is simply the facilitator to access the mobile network.
The brains behind the instructions given to the modem come from the kernel.
This was installed within the AP/PDA or android version.

The phone kernel is giving the instructions, but there is no modem to respond.
But your kernel responds to this by giving it another instruction, and so it goes on.
This is where your battery depletion is coming from.

I would have expected you to notice a rise in Note temperature.

schrodie
11-05-2014, 14:49
Many thanks again for your time and patience. ;)

If the Note bursts into flames whilst I'm using it I'll now know why!!! :D

Hopefully as you say putting the Note into Airplane Mode will negate most of these issues.